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By in Best of the Rest on 21st Mar 2010 6:00

This article appeared in Pitchcare Magazine
Issue 29 - February / March 2010

In my last 'grump' I reported how my wallet had been severely damaged by falling foul of new VOSA regulations regarding the fitting of tachometers to 4x4s towing trailers.

Well, as is my wont, I wrote to VOSA to ask for some points to be clarified - simple ones. Here's the reply I got from a senior VOSA official whom I will call 'She who must be obeyed' or, as they are referred to in text speak, SWMBO!

"I refer to your letters of 18 November and 28 December 2009 regarding various issues you have with road transport legislation. Your letters have, this week, ( MID JANUARY) been passed to me for a response.

I note that you wish a reply in writing so that it can be produced during any roadside check. However, you cover many topics which would result in many, many pages of written advice, most of which would not require our Examiners to have to read at the roadside as they are quite well aware of how VOSA expects them to enforce the various regulations."

Well, that got my dander up, so I penned the following response:

"If an intelligent reasonably educated (2 x Degree level) professional Health and Safety Consultant, Quality Assurance Manager and Managing Director i.e. me, requires many, many pages of written advice (your choice of phrase not mine) to understand the tachograph and other road related regulations, I have to wonder just what chance the proverbial "average man on the Clapham omnibus", who just happens to work in the grounds keeping sector, and who is occasionally required to tow a trailer of under 1020kg unladen weight with a GPM train weight of greater than 3500kg on a public road for commercial purposes, has of getting it right and avoiding fines and prohibitions that could, in time, cost him his livelihood?

You have made my principal point completely without even talking to me.

No published regulations should require such in depth written advice, as you suggest is needed, for them to be unambiguously understandable to an educated man such as I."

In reply I received further correspondence from SWMBO referring to my complaint about the impenetrability of the regulations.

"Unfortunately, we will not be able to overcome some of the annoyances of how digital tachograph equipment works as we are stuck with it because of how the legislation was written by the EU Commission, but I can certainly give you information that can minimise the burden and impact.

Unfortunately, one thing I can't address is how the legislation has been drafted. It's not a matter for VOSA. It is done by our masters at the Department for Transport or the EU Commission. We just enforce it to the best our ability but, having said that, we also sometimes have difficulty with how things have been written. Nature of the beast I'm afraid."

Here, SWMBO, who is employed as the VOSA legislation and policy advisor for traffic enforcement, admits that the digital tachograph has "annoyances" in the way it works, and, also, that the legislation is a "beast" and was drafted so poorly by the EU commission that even the full time professional policy advisor to VOSA sometimes struggles with its interpretation. This is surprisingly honest and, already, rather more than she perhaps should have said.

Eventually, I ended up talking to SWMBO. Needless to say I was left shaking with fury as there were several matters which she could not resolve without talking doublespeak, some matters she was going to have to look into again (what!) and others where I said that I simply could not comply as the environmental conditions associated with working outside in winter would render the legally required tacho discs and printouts liable to damage, general filth and loss. I pointed out that dirty, defaced or missing paperwork is not acceptable to VOSA.

I said I would maintain a log in a page a day diary and update the tacho discs and tacho printouts at a later date using data from the log book when back at base.

SWMBO still insisted on interpreting the VOSA regulations to the letter, requiring manual entries written on tacho discs or printouts as the only acceptable record, and reminding me that this was enforceable by a £200 on the spot fine.

When I said so be it, you told me that I had to put in a system to comply, and when I suggest such a system that met the spirit if not the exact letter of the law, you forcefully repeat that, to comply, I must do what I cannot do and immediately keep the records required on the rear of the tacho disc or the rear of a very flimsy printout from a digital tachograph.

Now I set her up for the following classic example of doublespeak.

I asked her how I could meet the requirement for 28 days of historical records that have to be kept in the cab when driving under tacho regs as, thanks to Christmas, New Year and the extended snow and frost, my vehicles have been sitting idle for the better part of 28 days.

She replied that I cannot possibly be expected to have records where there are none, but that VOSA traffic examiners would be expected to question the driver to get a detailed account of why there are missing records.

I pointed out that the VOSA questioning would require that the driver had some records in one form or another, even if only in his memory, and that her reply was doublespeak worthy of Sir Humphrey Appleby from the much loved Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister TV series.

A long pause ensued without a reply, so I asked if a record of working time, holidays and days of rest, kept for the purpose of the Working Time Directive (WTD), would be of assistance at such a time.

She took the bait, hook, line and sinker.

"Yes", she replied, "such a record would be helpful".

I pressed on, getting grudging acknowledgement that the time between the end of a shift and the start of the next shift is considered to be rest and does not need to be recorded (in the UK, but not everywhere in Europe), and that it is impossible to record weekly rest periods on tachograph media and that, should such records be queried, a note book kept by the driver would be helpful evidence.

I reminded her that the WTD allows me to select any form of records I think fit, and I choose to keep the records in my diary. I said that she had just stated that my working diary is acceptable to VOSA for some manually kept records purposes but not for others. A long silence ensued as she realised the extent to which she had been trapped into even more doublespeak.

I took a while (gloating) before breaking the silence by asking a question to establish that I do not require a Goods Vehicles Operator's licence under the Goods Vehicle Operator Licencing Act 1995. She who must be obeyed confirmed that I was exempt from any requirements as an operator as I only use dual purpose vehicles.

I asked if an Operator could be defined as he who should be licensed under the operator licensing system?

SWMBO swallowed that one as well and agreed the definition but, when I pulled the line taught, she tried to wriggle of the hook by saying that I was still an operator for the purposes of the tachograph acts. So I am, and am not, a Goods Vehicle Operator.

Oh the joys of dealing with the MoD - the Ministry of Doublespeak - my new name for the department of transport, a wonderful example of joined up government!

SWMBO ended by saying "You should be aware that it is VOSA's policy to target drivers or operators who are known to be non-compliant".

Ooooh, that sounded like a threat, and threats just get me madder!

I snapped back that if VOSA feel that focusing their fire on my small operation is a correct use of limited public money and resources, at a time of a severe public spending deficit, and that such an expenditure of time and effort is worth the absolutely minimal improvement to the safety of our roads that would result, then she must do as she feels she must.

Here the conversation came to an abrupt halt.

The correspondence continues, with me seeking ever more detailed definitions of how VOSA require me to act in the multiplicity of situations that are quite usually encountered during my work.

I have seen the levels of frustration and general 'harpyness' increase letter by letter.

I have just sent off another batch of queries about absurdities arising from the legislators trying to micromanage my working time.

Later on, I will send off a number of other queries arising from the 100km horticultural exemption to tie up some more VOSA executive time..

So, as well as grumpy, I can be a persistently annoying and very irritating old git when I get put out.

But I now have what I wanted, a letter from the VOSA Policy Advisor refusing to give me advice on VOSA policy!

She finally cracked under sustained questioning. The straws that broke the camel's back were:

a) Whether I could study during so called rest periods and, in particular, study regulations reference my work

b) On the definition of what proportion of a load has to be clearly for horticultural purposes before the horticultural exemption can be claimed. 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%?

Her Problem: Carefully chosen questions where there is no definition given anywhere in the regulations and no case law.

That clearly lit her self destruct fuse as she now refuses any further communication with me.

Makes a fine end to my story, does it not?

Read more articles in Best of the Rest, by David Green or from March 2010.

Read more articles from Issue 29 - February / March 2010



There are 5 comments on this article

21 Mar 2010 by Trolly Dolly

bloody VOSA ! but can I ask why you didnt just get a 7.5 ton lorry on a ristricted operators licence ( that any one can have) older than a 56 reg so you have a paper tacho to record driving hours, i think you will find this to be very much cheaper than adapting double cab pick ups with trailers. But all the rules and regulations are set to ruin us contractors once and for all, the honest hard working people again! and if VOSA cant explain there own regulations then we have no bloody hope !

4 wheels are better than none

22 Mar 2010 by ricam

I tried asking my little friendly VOSA Traffic Officer who incidentally fleeced me of £200 for not having a tacho fitted in my Shoegun whilst towing a loaded trailer coming off the ferry at Hull docks just before Christmas, the following

Suppose I came into work Monday and my driver didnt turn in, so I had to take the artic to Carlisle and back . Therefore I know I have to drive on a tacho. Reply Correct you should use a tacho.
Tuesday, I came into work and ran my buisness. Reply" you need to keep written records of your hours of work and record everything you do " MY Reply "Really"

Wed/.
I take my classic DB 30D to Newark Tractor Show using the same trailer as I was fined with. Reply" You do not need a tacho".

Thursday,.
I deliver a customers tractor back to him in Oldham.
Reply
If it is more than 50km from base you need a tacho, if less you do not need one.

Friday.
I help my mate out by taking his cattle trailer loaded with two prime beef cattle to Shrewsbury Smithfield Fatstock show.

Reply, You do not need a tacho.

Saturday.
The two beef cattle won first prize atShrewsbury Smithfield , and I have to take them in the same trailer as yesterday to the slaughterhouse the other side of Macclesfield.
Reply " you will need a tacho.

I come home after having a **** week and the good lady says "come on hitch up the twin axle caraven lets go to the south of France", so I asked him do I need a tacho and for how long can I drive?
My little friends reply " you do not need a tacho, and therefore you do not come under the working time directive"

When prompted for a response to my further question of "Do you not think this law that you are trying to implement is an ****! His typical reply was "I cannot comment on that Sir".


Some further comments/notes.
Try going on the VOSA website to find out about towing of trailers.
I will guarantee after 4 hours of trawling through it you will end up where you start.

Try finding about it with VOSA at Swansea you will speak to people who know nothing about it or pass you from pillar to post.

Try reasoning with them you can't , they have been programmed to answer you cwith set answers.

Try reasoning with them when they tell you it is"pan european legislatiuon which they are enforcing". We are in contact with simalar companies as ourselves who run 4x4 vehicles and trailers, and non of them have to have tachographs fitted.

It seems to me that Vosa are taking the easy pickings all the
time and raking £200 in all the time from the small companies that keep this country going!!


Richard Campey



Avatar: Belgian Tervuren 22 Mar 2010 by Dave

Sounds like another possible Pitchcare campaign on the horizon!

25 Mar 2010 by Lynda Green

Hi Donk,

I have thought about all sorts of vehicles to do away with the dual purpose pickup/ 4X4 and trailer combination but;

1) I need four wheel drive when off roading on golf courses:

2) I need to be able to park with ease at a wide variety of B&B places around the UK most of which cannot accomodate a 7.5 tonner.
3) The pickup also serves as a decent tow vehicle for my caravan if and when I get time to use it
4) There is no room at either my house or my workshop to park a 7.5 tonner, I drop off the trailer in the barn and then take the vehicle home and park in my front garden: Definitely banned for a 7.5 tonner.
5) I want nothing to do with the maintenance requirements or the checking and record keeping systems required for HGV
6) I want nothing to do with operator licencing and the double jeopardy that comes with it; Get caught and get prosecuted and p-robably fined then you can also be referred to the traffic commissioner who can suspend your operator licence, declare you as an unfit person to hold an operator licence , limit the number of vehicles you can use etc. etc.
So I hope that yopu now see why my vehicle choice, difficult as VOSA may fgind it fits my needs.

Regards

Grumpy

DSC00415 26 Mar 2010 by Noah Little

I too am fed up with VOSA... can I join the club that David, Richard and Lynda are in???

My take on it all is that (as previously stated) 4 x 4 plus trailer = easy meat for the VOSA boys/girls and meeting their targets. The greyness of the legislation is frighteneing! Want an example of how petty and penny pinching they are...

2 blokes head off to Scotland - one in a 7.5 tonne truck and one in a 4 x 4 + trailer (without a tacho). VOSA pseudo policeman and woman see "unusual eqpt" stacked on rear of each vehicle (their words not mine) and decide "lets see what they are!!" (again, their words).
Their findings -
7.5 tonne truck - completely road legal except plating document missing from door panel. My fault admittedly (still in filing cabinet), but there is nothing unsafe about the vehicle: the tax is in-date, the Test is in-date, the servicing record is up to date, the driver is carrying the requisite no. of days of tachos so that they can see he is not driving too many hours (etc., etc.), lights, tyres, etc. are fine - EVERYTHING IS FINE - except for a small piece of coloured paper (that they have been able to see from Dep of Transport via internet type linking records is up to date and exists) BUT they still stick to letter of law and put prohibition notice on it and send it back to base (30 miles away!!).
4 x 4 + trailer - no tacho = "big problem" prohibition notice immediately slapped on vehicle (but allowed to move back to base). Driver gets hauled over coals for not having his tachos for the weeks - he replies "but there is no tacho in this vehicle - how can I possibly have tachos to show you???" Answer from Pseudopoliceman comes back
" Aaaahhhh, yes - but you should have had a tacho in there. If you had had one you should have been carrying tachos, so I am going to have to fine you (£200) for something you should have had (but obviously couldn't produce because there is no way of "making them").

Result = 2 very pi**ed off blokes (3 if you include me) sent back to base 30+miles away in totally safe and roadworthy vehicles to do a change over to another truck that means our work schedule (they had 2 hours worth of lecturing from VOSA pseudo police) is shot to pieces and we are a day behind on our commitments to customers straightaway on a monday.

VOSA = no empathy to a situation
no comprehension of what a "minor oversight" is
no ability to use "discretion" regarding indiscretion
no sense of reality

When I ask an officer of the VOSA realm " Why do you pick on law abiding people trying to gainfully employ people, and who pay their road tax, insurance and MOT (not to mention PAYE, Corporation Tax, etc.) and provide a service to Joe Public, when habitual offenders who actively seek to mislead VOSA and other agencies (DVLA, etc.) are left well alone? (i.e. "travellers" and their cash existence ) I get the answer: "We are not discriminatory - we just deal with what we find"
My snap response was = "Yeah, and you don't look for the difficult scalps - you look for the easy ones who you know will be so upright that they pay the fine, take the hit and struggle on."
VOSA reply = " I can't possibly comment on that sir..."

No - I bet you can't - its not been put on the script that you preach from...

Nurse !!! Get me my pills...



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