22 Jan 2007 by Maesglas Football Club.
ok, then any advice on what dry white marker powder is best, we have just been given a dry lining marker , its good but the lines dissappear after a few days even more so when it has rained, so its frustrating when we mark the pitch on the Friday afternoon, and when it rains overnight theres hardly any lines visable on the day of the game Any clues please.
We are not a rich club either so we cannot always afford the best !!
dry line markers are literally (in my experience) an emergency marking method, they put down a dry powder to form the line prior to a match, but dont really have any lasting properties about it, there to my knowledge is not a powder that lasts anyway, i only used dryline when a wheel to wheel would not go thru the mud, now i have a Kombi spray marker, and as long as there is not water laid, it will mark on any surface, grass, mud, sand, loam, even marked out some bays on a hard core carpark for a function, picking up on your final comment about finances, i would have to bite the bullet and shut the marker down a bit and literally put a mark down for that particular match, instead of trying to make marking a weekly task, until the pitch dries enough to resort back to your normal methods, just a thought
Ticky supports British farmers...!!
23 Jan 2007 by fes
To be effective you will need to build a line up with dry line powder, it workks best when there is sufficent moisture in the ground to hold the first markng and this needs to be fairly thick ,it then needs to be built up over the next few markings,but lines even made up of dry powder will not last if the area has been turned to mud.
23 Feb 2007 by Sonic
Hi guys
The truth is that if you can afford to mark out with a dryliner you can afford to mark out with quality marking paint at 1 3rd less the cost per pitch marked. you will use approx 1 hole bag of dry lineing compound as suggested at approx £6.00 per bag per pitch and you have to use loads to get an eventual build up! Try Fleet Easiflo designed for dryline marking.
With paint it is approx £4.00 per pitch marked or even less if diluted right.
As for marking with weed killer in the powder thats a first !and if its worked with out loosing the sward then great, but I still think you need MAFF approval to mix the two together.
Burning in lines has been done for years and years but with todays technology in paints it is not best to open up the surface where a line is going to be marked to bear soil at any cost.
If you think about it soil is made up of very small particles that you are trying to coat with a cover of white or colourd paint . they have very little surface area to cover and the surface then becomes even more pourous and moves easily even with rain hitting them let alone players and linesmaen running on then.
That is why white lines do not last on soil it just washes through quickly making it costly.
Grass has a larger surface area to be able to cover and for the paint to stick to, and lasts 4 times longer,
Finale as mentioned above is not systemic if used right it will only tinge the grass light brown but leaving the root to re-grow but still hold the soil together and provide structure but also it is MAFF approved for mixing in the white stuff if anyone really feels the need to still burn in.
My advice to you paul is to contact a reputable linemarking company and get proper advice from them for free, some of them know what they are talking about and will show you the most economical way to do your marking with lines that last.
Sorry to go on a bit and late in the chat but hope this helps.
Cheers
Hi
You can purchase Easiflo through the Pitchcare shop. I would go with ticky21 suggestion though and maybe trial (free of charge) the Kombi and paint through Pitchcare at some time. You'll see a huge difference and the investment will pay for itself over 1 - 2 seasons and then the club will be saving money.
Contact Dan or John at Pitchcare if you would like the trial.
The cheapest dry line marker that I ever used was a 5 ltr oil can with a handle screwed on and some stones in the bottom to agitate the lime. You walked up the line shaking the can up and down, if the wind was wrong you tended to walk in a cloud of lime, Mmmmmm, tasty
Regards
Steve
p.s. needless to say, that was on the council!
Don't talk to me about Contractors Wonka, I am one myself......
OR, buy some value Matt Emulsion from B&Q (5 litres), dilute it with 5 litres of water, and that should be enough to do at least one pitch, maybe even two.
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