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Andy Matthews
Posted 6 Mar 2008 Last edited: 6 Mar 2008
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I was wondering what size pitches juniors in other areas around the country play on. The reason I ask is that due to numbers we have had to put 3 U11's teams in two different leagues this year. The Sheffield Junior league play on 21 yard pitches. Due to the fact that we can play on a different night our other team is in the Bassetlaw league and the U11's here play on 18 yard pitches. The ECB website recommends 20 yard pitches for hard ball games at U11. I did raise this with the Sheffield league last year but got no real response. It seems odd to me that the ECB don't just tell everyone the pitch sizes and standardise it so that it's all the same, or is it just these two leagues that are out of kilta. I am pretty Sure the Doncaster league also plays on 21 yards as well. Also our U9's play on 16 yard pitches and the ECB recommend 15 yards!.
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jlawrence
Posted 6 Mar 2008
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Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.

The ECB/MCC do have specified pitch lengths for the various age groups.
However, some leagues will over ride those lengths with their own requirements - after all, that's what local rules are for.
How many people actually use the correct size stumps ? I know quite a few leagues that don't, despite the fact that a junior ball can pass through a correctly setup senior set of stumps.
IIRC, U11's = 20 yd, U13 = 21 yd, U14+ = 22yd. I suppose at somepoint I'd better check any local rules here else they'll be playing on the wrong length tracks.
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Andy Matthews
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John the print out only says recommendations for Junior cricket and I would take this as the pitch lengths, but why don't the leagues, it seems very strange to me, we could have players using one size pitches for league matches and another for representitive games.
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jlawrence
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Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.

I think it's the same as with everything else Andy, the leagues think that they know better than everyone else - why should they follow recommendations ?
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Andy Matthews
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Your right John and then we wonder why we struggle at international level, it's the same with coaching at local levels too many people in their ivory towers looking after their own agenda's and don't get me started on that one or the soap box will well and truly be out.
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jlawrence
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Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.

Why we struggle at 'top' level is way beyond that.
When i was looking for a school for my 4 yr old to go to. The best schools didn't take part in competitive sports - cos they were too large and so won everything....... Sorry so f'in what.
If we don't teach kids to win from an early age then it is no wonder that the national teams are fu***d.
Taking part is good.
Winning is what matters. And that needs to be inbred from an early age.
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panch
Posted 6 Mar 2008
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JL
Totally disagree with you. If youngsters were given the opportunity to enjoy sport instead of being pushed by parents trying to relive their lives through their kids, we might have more of them continuing to play after they reach 15. Also world class sportsmen and women are born and not made and no amount of coaching and practice will change that. The reason other parts of the world suceed where we fail is because they play because they want too not because someone tells them they should or that they'll earn loads of money if they do. Passion for the game is what matters. Unfortunately in this country just putting on the shirt isnt enough any more.
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zoid
Posted 7 Mar 2008
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Hear Hear!

We can't all win but we should be encouraged to try and councelled if we fail.

jl is correct that we need competition but being a slave to success and glory would make us all manc united fans.

Pass the bucket.

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jlawrence
Posted 7 Mar 2008
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Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.

Panch. i agree that in the main top sports people are born not made and in the main sport is there for us to enjoy. But if from an early age you're taught that just taking part is what matters then the guys and lasses of the future won't have developed the desire to win. It is the desire to win and be the best that drives those with the ability to put in the hours and hours of training that it takes to perform at the top level.
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Andy Matthews
Posted 7 Mar 2008
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The last 3 posts here all say the right things, when I run my U11's we do always want to win but not at all costs, they are still only kids after all, Football has a notorious reputuation now for this and we have all seen the nutter parents and nutter manages who are only bothered about the lads who can kick it hardest. What I place more emphasis on is that we always play good cricket, using good technique and the right shots to the right ball, if the boys learn this then they will win more games than they loose and enjoy it in the process. We have so far had 6 weeks of our winter "nets" with the boys and my U11's haven't had the nets out yet, they are split into small groups and move round the hall working on three or four ares of batting or bowling technique, only now will they move into nets for the last 4 weeks. I agree with Panch you are born with the drive to be a top sportsman, I have seen several boys with loads of natural ability but relatively weak mental strenght, they will be good players but won't play at as higher level as they could have.

The strutcher is also wrong the better boys don't get enough high quality representitive games where the aspects of playing hard and winning can be instilled, Sheffield will only have 4 perhaps 5 taverners games and thats it, why don't they play all the other local towns and cities, Rotherham don't even have a representitive side!, why then don't they have East, West, North and South Yorkshire so the boys move up a standard again to push them on before Yorkshire, North of England and then Full England, it's at these levels where we should be pushing our best players and matching them against other players of the same ability and forming the next batch of international players, but certainly round here it doesn't exist. The Aussies constantly push the better players in high quality games and that is where the winning edge is honed.
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Minormorris64
Posted 7 Mar 2008
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Shropshire Cricket League

Under 17's - 22 yards
Under 15's - 22 yards
Under 13's - 21 yards
Under 11's - 19 yards
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