Message Board - Machinery: Drainage Equipment Hire

30 May 2008 by Andrew Weare

I need to install some secondary drainage channels. I can hire a trencher but the minimum cut is 4" (100mm) which is fine for the land drains but I need a machine (wizz wheel or chain trencher) that will cut channels 2" (50mm) wide. Does anybody know where I can hire this equipment in the Bristol area? I can't find anything on the net.

untitled 30 May 2008 by Barry Pace

Hi Andrew, this assumes you are not an ex-drainage guy, due to the value of the kit, the ability of it to get totally wrecked quite easily by inexperienced operators and the lack of market you wont find this sort of trencher easily and I doubt in the West. Not only that but the Wheel is only part of what is needed, add grass tyred tractors with enough HP, stone carts and backfill hoppers and special trailers designed to work with the wheel.
The only people who may hire as far as I know are Sheltons from Lincolnshire but they will not hire a trencher to you unless comfortable it will be operated by an experienced or competant operator. By the time you have paid for all this to be delivered and returned, the cost of the kit, tractors and fuel, the materials, spent couple days getting into the swing of it you will see how economical the rates you have had from a drainage contractor actually are.
I also hope you have adequate insurance in place to cover the value of the kit which will be many tens of £K and for the work in place should something go awry.
Do your sums and then contact a pro drainage firm, prefferably a member of LDCA should you feel self drain may be more risky than its worth
Cheers,
Barry

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2010 0417HALTON0001 31 May 2008 by ticky21

i 100% agree with my mate barry ...i also looked into hiring machines to put in some drainage, although im a competent and experienced machine operator, ( i used to work for Agripower then Kestrel.) i decided its easier to make a phone call and get them boys in to do it for me, i did manage to keep the cost down by getting materials myself, and supplying a couple of small tractor/trailers..

Ticky supports British farmers...!!

Avatar: New Zealand 31 May 2008 by Sumomosr Last edited 31 May 2008



I concur with the esteemed Mr Pace Esq. and Lord Ticky of Carlsberg.

We had the contractors on the course recently for the second time since I've been here. Experienced operator and all. (Just not experienced with their new trencher or tractor apparently)...

I didn't have a lot of confidence in them after the first visit seeing them with their shiny new JD tractor, new chain trencher, Whizz Wheel, conveyor and ropey old Workman 3200 etc.

No surprise then when they asked for assistance to uncouple the chain trencher & conveyor since, while carving an 'S' shaped trench around the edge of the 9th green approach, they had ripped the right lift arm link off the tractor. And bent the lower arm.

I modified and fitted a Kubota link to allow them to get the unit out of the ground and they promptly carried on with the curved cut and broke their left one! Expensive cast yokes and not one in the country, let alone two.

Trenching & Drainage: Specialist work - for specialists (in my opinion).

Lesson: Less likelihood of damage if you cut straight-line trenches I think.

GOGGA

31 May 2008 by jarvoski

although this is nothing to do with drainage, i am sick to death of hearing how good these bowdrys are, particularly the blue ones, they are absolutely USELESS, my club in the past has purchased 3 of them, i green and 2 blue, we've managed to sell the 2 blue ones. the roller doesnt stay tight to the foam, half the water escapes round the roller back on to the floor. the answer is the australian sopper absolutely brilliant does a fantastic job for less money. also any outside market will sell you the foam for £5 and acan of spray adhesive insteadf of the makers £45 + vat

untitled 1 Jun 2008 by Barry Pace

Cheers Jarvo... random...........weird but random
Sumo, hey you, as you witnessed, whizz wheels = straight trench anything else will result in expense, normally wharped wheels followed by bearing problems.... just have look at the machine and see.
Mr Ticky, how are ya, that as you so eloquently put, tis the only way to go about it if you want to be involved yourself.
Barry

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