Message Board - Football: Markings on Touch Line
9 Jun 2008 by agrostis
I have ever since the International FA Board decision 6 was added to Law 1 a number of years ago........
10 Jun 2008 by Leeboy
Where do you work so we can have a look next time its on tv?
10 Jun 2008 by Steve63
or not bother.....
Don't talk to me about Contractors Wonka, I am one myself......
10 Jun 2008 by Barry Pace
LOL I still like it even tho its not strictly sanctioned but I always did like to live life on the edge....................being a bit whooo a little whahay, wild me......
Plastic.... it's The End I tell you... THE END!!!!
11 Jun 2008 by Leeboy
I will be quaking in my boots waiting for the letter from the FA telling us off for marking it in future then, it must be such a major worry for them!
11 Jun 2008 by Aladdin
Decision 6
A mark may be made off the field of play, 9.15 metres (10 yds) from the corner arc and at right angles to the goal lines, to ensure that this distance is observed when a corner kick is being taken.
http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/FIFALawsOfTheGame/Postings/2002/05
From the posh end of the room!!
11 Jun 2008 by Leeboy
I did read it Malcolm on the Scottish FA website, but as (almost) everyone else is doing it, then there is no need to stop until everyone is told not to. I am sure that if you ask the refs they would think it was compulsory anyway.
11 Jun 2008 by agrostis
Sorry everyone is so touchy about an illegal marking on their football pitch. I suppose it was too much to ask that a fellow groundsman who has been in the trade for over 30 years could possibly give some advice to help others.
Its a pity continental groundsmen are showing us British groundsman how to mark pitches correctly now
..it use to be the other way around.
11 Jun 2008 by Aladdin
I'm not touchy, I'm confused. Firstly it was a mark on the touchline which had me searching through the rules.
Now you appear to be saying that the mark on the goal line is illegal. My understanding is that it is optional
I'm just voluntary, by the way, not a full time pro.
From the posh end of the room!!
11 Jun 2008 by Barry Pace
WELL i AM TOUCHY ABOUT IT AS A REFEREE.........i really should be doing something else but this so annoys me for its ...... unimportance...
This is the IFAB Decision 6 (ie amendment or clarification for Law 1)
A mark may be made off the field of play, 9.15 metres (10 yds) from the corner arc and at right angles to the goal lines, to ensure that this distance is observed when a corner kick is being taken.
This mark is allowed to assist the officials, it states that it should be at right angles to the goal line, it does not state that you are only allowed it on the goal line.
Thank you
Plastic.... it's The End I tell you... THE END!!!!
11 Jun 2008 by ticky21
im sorry barry............could you clarify your POINT.....lol
Ticky supports British farmers...!!
12 Jun 2008 by Barry Pace
Oi Simon............. leave it ................... rofl
Plastic.... it's The End I tell you... THE END!!!!
12 Jun 2008 by Leeboy
I remember you raised this point a couple of years ago and no one paid any attention then either, so why bother bringing it up when no one is concerned one way or the other?
15 Jun 2008 by agrostis
One should be concerned and only raised the point because the mark is only allowed on the goal line. If the law said it could be placed on the touch line it would say so. Even the pitch diagram in the law book shows the mark on the goal line only......so let's do as the law book says..........
16 Jun 2008 by Leeboy
You may want to point it out to UEFA then-on Saturday the pitch in Innsbruck had them on the touchline and goal line, but later on in Salzburg they were only on the goal line-no point us worrying if UEFA arent that concerned to notice the differences right in front of their eyes.
16 Jun 2008 by agrostis
I think I will just give up on this one as it proves very few people in the industry care if something is right or wrong. At least the pitches I am involved with will be once again correctly marked.
17 Jun 2008 by Leeboy
The point that no one is bothered has finally sunk in then! You still havent told us what pitches you are involved with either.
17 Jun 2008 by Loammeister
I think Lee really does care about right and wrong, he makes a good point about the Euro 2008 pitches after all; and he does work at an important venue too, where are you agrostis? Don't be afraid of debate with Leeboy's acerbic wit 
The light at the end of the tunnel is not a train
17 Jun 2008 by dave r-b
Lee,
am i right in saying that you had both marks for the UEFA cup final earlier this year. If so, did UEFA raise the point. I doubt they even noticed. This debate seems to be way off the MARK. lol
im now an ex groundsman but hey old habits die hard
17 Jun 2008 by Steve63
Mark you, the markings are off the field of play, so are they advisory or mandatory or discretionary or optional! 
Regards
Steve
Don't talk to me about Contractors Wonka, I am one myself......
17 Jun 2008 by Barry Pace Last edited 17 Jun 2008
No sorry, one should not be concerned, one should read the rules and see that it does not state that you are not allowed the mark, it states that you can place a mark at 90 degs to the goal line, one should like at the practicalities of what the mark is actually for, they could have just as easily allowed a circular 10y quadrant as per the centre circle and Ds... the mark is there for the exact same reason.... to assist the officials to guage the distance and to keep players the legal distance from the corner arc. Maybe its a thing with the english/Premier league style of the game that a mark back up the touch line is better positioned as this is the direction that a short corner is played more frequently, if it was wrong it would be allowed simple as... ask Lee..
And i hope your marks set from the correct position in relation to the corner arc.
Plastic.... it's The End I tell you... THE END!!!!
17 Jun 2008 by PeterEdmondson
That last bit is key surely, as I think it's meant to be 10 yards from where the ball is, which isn't neccesarily the front of the arc, but almost certainly won't be on the intersection of the 2 lines which is where a lot of people measure from. So for all that I don't bother with these optional lines.
17 Jun 2008 by chucky
Let me add my bit.
I have a Chairman who insists that I put our flags out for first team games at the half way line.
I ordered six flags. Four for the corners and two as spare!!
Maybe I am wrong but I seem to remember this type of behaviour from the 70's!
No wonder I'm Mr Grumpy!
17 Jun 2008 by Mike
What's wrong with flags on the half way lines??? We have them out for every match, every age group... one of those optional things I guess
17 Jun 2008 by chucky
I assume Mike you are from years gone by? No need for flags on half way lines.
No wonder I'm Mr Grumpy!
17 Jun 2008 by Mike
No, i'm only a young gun, my boss however IS from a byegone era... several actually 
18 Jun 2008 by Leeboy
We did have them on both the goal line and touchline for the UEFA Cup Final, and as UEFA were on site for 10 days prior to the final they had plenty of time to raise the point-of course they didnt because as this thread has proved it is a trivial matter worthy of no action at all.
The mark itself, whichever line/s you put it on, should be 10 yards or 9.15 metres from the arc, not the corner where the two lines join.
Still waiting for Agrostis to tell us where he works-the silence has been deafening after the two times I have asked him on this thread.
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