Message Board - Football: Spraying new pitch
30 Jun 2009 by Mightyjimbob
My football pitch was over seeded around 4 weeks ago, when would be a suitable time to spray for weeds and worms?
How soon can this be done on juvenile grass?
Cheers Jim
30 Jun 2009 by andy2110
That all depends on what you are using...2nd leaf stage is usually the norm...
30 Jun 2009 by Ken Barber
Your comment is a little misleading andy, Most selective herbicides should not be applied to newly sown lawns until they are more than 6 months old.
There are a few selective herbicides..... Headland Amenity have one.....
Cabadex is a selective herbicide for the control of broad-leaved weeds in amenity turf.
Copied from the literature......This Unique formulation containing florasulam and fluroxypyr.
Can be used on newly sown turf (from two leaf stage)
Controls difficult weeds such as yarrow and lesser trefoil
(yellow suckling clover). Now approved for control of slender speedwell. Low dose rate for safe and cost-effective weed control. Foliar and root uptake provides efficient control of difficult weeds.
Hi Jim,
I would leave the worm control until the autumn, when the soils are generally moist and day length is shorter. However, If your field is irrigated and the worms become active then anytime will do. Although, I would do it later in the day if there are lots of wormcasts when they have dried and won't get tracked in. Use Carbendzim at 4ltr per ha. Add a little wetting agent to the tank to help get it in and irrigate if you can or if rain is not forecast.
KB
The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under who’s shade you do not expect to sit.
30 Jun 2009 by andy2110
I wasn't trying to be mis-leading, that is why i wondered what he was actually using!
30 Jun 2009 by Ken Barber
Sorry..... no offence meant Andy, I didn't want Jim to assume he could apply any selective herbicide.
KB
The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under who’s shade you do not expect to sit.
30 Jun 2009 by andy2110
Its cool Ken i didnt take offence, you was right to correct me..as i was a bit vague i suppose :-)
Andy
30 Jun 2009 by Mightyjimbob
Hi Guys
Cheers for all the response. We sprayed Relay and carbendzim last summer but although it worked a treat, i`d like to spray it before the start of the season this time around, maybe july.
We are in cheshire/south manchester area, does anybody have a good contract sprayer they would recomend?
Cheers Jim
1 Jul 2009 by jlawrence
Carb is fine on fairly new turf. I've applied it on my cricket square - perhaps as close as 4 weeks after seeding. There's not a lot of point applying in summer unless you're seeing a lot of worms already.
I don't know about relay, but I'd imagine that it's possibly ok after the 2nd leaf stage - read the manuf data sheet it should say something on the subject.
One thing for sure if we had to wait 6 months before applying a selective then none would ever manage to get applied to any cricket squares - I can't think of any cricket square which ever goes 6 months without having seed applied.
Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.
1 Jul 2009 by stewart england
Complete Weed Control
Dave Roberts : 07977189715
3 Jul 2009 by Mightyjimbob
Stewart, where is Dave Roberts based? Cheers
Is it possible anyone to spray carbendazim, a selective like Relay and soiluble iron in one go, all mixed in together??
Kill 3 birds with one stone so to speak.
Cheers Jim
3 Jul 2009 by stewart england
Manchester area
4 Jul 2009 by fidget
Why would you want to kill worms on a Football pitch?
They indicate a healthy soil, improve drainage, aerate and break up organic matter. Regularly mowing & drag matting should remove any casts. I can see why you wouldn't want them on fine turf but they are hardly going to affect a football. Cutting down pesticides where possible is a good policy, plus it's saves money which could be spent elsewhere.
4 Jul 2009 by Aladdin
Mr. fidget, I would suggest that "regular mowing" over worm casts is not a good idea. Surely it would do neither pitch nor machine any good. Would they not seal the pitch thus causing drainage problems?
And also stick to the landroll thus getting spread around?
We used to be plagued with casts but, effectively, cured the problem by making the surface more free draining and hence drier.
Everything else I'm in agreement with!!
From the posh end of the room!!
4 Jul 2009 by fidget
Perhaps drag mat first, then mow. This along with other regular maintenance such as topdressing, scarifying & spiking I don't think a few worm casts spread over a pitch is going to cause that much of a problem.
4 Jul 2009 by Aladdin
That I can go along with.
I suppose it depends on how much of a problem one has with casts. I always tend to think of our own former situation which was pretty bad.
From the posh end of the room!!
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