Message Board - Golf: Recycled Water Washdown Systems
7 Sep 2009 by Eddy21 Last edited 7 Sep 2009
Hi all,
I have been asked to start researching and pricing up for the installation of a washdown system at our club here in Paris.
The 2 systems I am looking at, at the moment are the Waste to Water and the Clear Water system ( by Course Care). If anybody is using either of the 2 systems, I would be interested in any feedback or opinions based on your experiences so far (good, bad etc).
As we have a pretty big fleet of kit here, I think a 2 or 3 hose system will be required, but I am just weighing up all the pros and cons at the moment as this will be a winter project once things have settled down on the course.
If anybody also has any good pictures of the systems installed at their clubs either as they are now or pictures of installation and preparation, I would be extremely interested in seeing these as well.
Also, if anyone is using a system that is not one of the 2 above, I would be very interested to hear about this, as Im just at the planning stage at the moment and am open to other ideas.
My Email is David.edmondson3@gmail.com
Thanks in advance
DE
Learning is there for every man
8 Sep 2009 by turfjack
Dave
I shopped around a few years back and ended up with the Waste to Water system (Under the name ESD over here). The other main system I looked at was not biological based but used carbon and peroxide to clean up the water. Sounded great but I heard of a few issues mainly dealing with the carbon and peroxide.
The ESD is great once you keep up with the very little maintenance involved. I've had a few small issues with pumps going bad (but it was mainly due to my guys not keping up on the maintenance.) Maintenance is usually less than five minutes a day and on fridays it takes a little longer as we top off with new bugs, change the mesh screen and clean the sump out so the float doesn't stick. It costs around $120 dollars a month for 'bugs' for the two wash system. One word of caution, none of these systems handle large amounts of mud (as I found out the hard way....) so if you deal with a lot of mud a pre wash pad for getting off heavy mud would be a nice advantage.
They are a great addition, make life so much easier and the wash down areas are always clean.
Hope this helps
For the maintenance dept I bought a two hose version and it has worked great. I put the tank and equipment inside our chem room and plumbed the hoses to the outside. I also added a single hose version for our cart barn when that came on line last year. I haven't had any issues with that one, the main reason being that one guy is in charge of it and keeps up on the maintenance. Just one word of caution, just make sure if you want to use it in the winter the equipment gets placed inside with a valve to turn off the water to the hoses, again we forgot to turn off the hose once and had to replace our pipes after they froze.
Alan FitzGerald, LedgeRock Golf Club
14 Sep 2009 by calcallaby
Surprised there have been no other responses in this thread, I have kept an eye on it with some interest, but NO, no posters.
Ah, well.
14 Sep 2009 by Neil Dixon
We have the hydroscape wash down system at St Pauls School, very very good system, all the main gubbings above ground in one container ( so if needed , could be moved by disconnecting a few pipes), the pump is submersable and just a couple of pipes are below the pad, the pump is only held in with a few bolts so if needed can be taken out and serviced.
as Alan says, the pumps dont like mud so this needs to be cleaned of first and then swept up and disposed off.
PM me if you would like some info
14 Sep 2009 by calcallaby
Thanks Neil, I'll take a look at the Hydroscape website. We have the W2W system here but I didn't post on the subject, waited to see what others had installed. We are not exactly spoiled for choice in the UK are we?
Cal
14 Sep 2009 by Eddy21
Hi all,
Thankyou very much for your replies gentlemen.
Its a tough one to call as to which system I am swaying towards as they both look pretty good in all fairness, though from the feedback I am getting the W2W does look my favourite option at the moment.
But Im interested in having a look at the Hydroscape as well, as this was something I wasnt familiar with so thanks for putting me onto that Neil.
Just as a matter of interest I have one more question regarding these systems. This may come across a bit of a silly question and there is probably a really simple answer to it, but I wil ask anyway, as I didnt think of it until today.
These systems use their own water which is recycled, cleaned etc. Although I dont work in an area where we recieve alot of rain.....Im interested to know....if it did rain alot, how do these systems stop rainwater from entering it through the drain (on the actual pad itself) and filling the system to an overfull level?
There is probably a really simple answer to the above question...but as I say its just something I thought about today and would be interested in finding out.
Cheers in advance
Dave
Learning is there for every man
14 Sep 2009 by calcallaby
It goes out through an overflow pipe, just like a toilet cistern.
14 Sep 2009 by Eddy21
voilą...... thanks very much for that Cal.
I thought it would be something as simple as that, but as I wasnt sure I thought it was best to ask.
Kindest Regards
Dave
Learning is there for every man
14 Sep 2009 by calcallaby
I take it you got my E mails???
14 Sep 2009 by Eddy21 Last edited 14 Sep 2009
Yes Cal,
Thankyou ever so much for those and for the information provided. Its much appreciated.
Sorry I was a little slow to reply as I have been mad busy with tournament preparations and tonight is the first time the PC has been on for a few days.
Thanks very much once again Cal
Kindest regards
Dave
Learning is there for every man
15 Sep 2009 by turfjack
Dave
I put a roof over mine to minimize the amount of overflow. The only thing to remember is if it overflows due to rain you will need to make sure you top off the 'bugs'.
Alan FitzGerald, LedgeRock Golf Club
15 Sep 2009 by Barry Pace
Dave, if a roof!!!?? is not possible then golden rule is make sure the pad only has to cope with the water landing on it, seen a few of these where they werent thought out and half the yard ran into them, resulting in flooding out.... followed by strange humps or gulley drains hastily being bodged in to try to divert the water.
Barry
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