Message Board - Machinery: 220C groomer unit or brush?
17 Dec 2009 by petermarkcraig Last edited 17 Dec 2009
Looking to buy a new John Deere 220C of which we have 6 already. Contemplating getting the brush attachment instead of the groomer.
Does anyone have any thoughts/experiences of comparing the two?
Peter
Of course the grass looks good. The sun is shining.
17 Dec 2009 by Sumomosr
Which sport/surface are you intending to mow PMC?
Groomer & Brush do slightly different jobs.
GOGGA
17 Dec 2009 by petermarkcraig
Corquet lawns to 3.5mm. Word has it the golf fraternity are moving away from the groomers in favour of the brush as the groomers are too harsh. My first thought was the same as yours. Just wondered what others thought.
Of course the grass looks good. The sun is shining.
17 Dec 2009 by Vic Demain
Peter, wish I had one 220C, let alone six. Like the golfers a few bowls greenkeepers have moved away from the groomers because I believe they are finding it difficult to encourage fescue growth with groomers fitted.
Perhaps has2mow will give his opinion, I know he uses one.
17 Dec 2009 by Grassman2011
Have you been in touch with Gregg Evans Peter ? 3.5mm. Gregg goes all the way to 2.5mm, he is at Ealing golf club, contact him and see what he suggests. Happy Christmas.
18 Dec 2009 by willard
I use the 220C on cricket pitches. Set cut to 6mm, groomer to 1mm. Cut block at 12mm, groomer at 6mm. Excellent results. However, grass growth in NZ is much more vigorus than UK. Perhaps brush could be a good soft option for UK.
Makes Ransomes & Lloyds seem like antiques!
18 Dec 2009 by has 2 mow
Hi Peter
Like yourself we run 220 john deere's, models A/B and C . This year i turned the groomers of on one of our bowls greens and raised the cut to 5.5 mm ,after reading the disturbance theory by the stri . The green also had a reduced input of feed ,and watered when needed .
Now the results have been a return of a few isolated areas of fescue , not massive but a few good signs to encourage me to continue next season . Now i can not put this down to just the groomers but along with a good regime of maintenance it is helping .
On the downside the rye can get a little out of control for me ,so maybe a brush would help as it is a bit more gentle .
Or at least until rescue is available to us bowls boys .
Food for thought . Mark
18 Dec 2009 by petermarkcraig
I'm reading all your thoughts with great interest.
Of course the grass looks good. The sun is shining.
18 Dec 2009 by has 2 mow
http://www.stri.co.uk/downloads/Web%20Structure/Services/Agronomy/Donotdisturb.pdf
Happy reading to all those that have not seen .
Mark
18 Dec 2009 by Chris Thornton
Just read it "Has2" and it was excellent. I do Cricket so my surface, obviously, gets maximum disturbance and is sown entirely with Dwarf Rye so the article doesn't really apply to me but I found it very interesting. Thanks.
Chris
"He not busy being born is busy dying"
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