Message Board - Natural Turf: phosphates for fine turf ?
6 Jan 2010 by has 2 mow
I had a meeting at the end of 2009, it was suggested that i incorporate the use of fish hydrolysate into our programme . Against the very small amount of ammonia or liquid inorganic feed that i use . i find that the turf likes the acidity from the fe and the ammonia .
But i am a little concerned over the amount of p that i will apply ,as our levels all ready show good to high readings, and that does fine turf really need p ?
I like the idea of applying a light feed with a added soil stimulate, and i am also looking to increase surface aeration.
Any thoughts
Mark
6 Jan 2010 by Ken Barber
Hi Has 2 mow, Fish hydrolysate is currently recognised as the best product for increasing beneficial bacteria and fungi as a food source. I am not sure on the Phosphate content of this product, since I have not found any literature, which gives this information. However, The rates recommended are not excessive and the benefits are many. I understand your thoughts on ammoniacal N & Fe but would it not be true to say that both ammoniacal N & Fe can cause problems in excess, especially the later.
Why not try it and see what your soil analysis tell you in the future?
KB
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6 Jan 2010 by ian macmillan
Hi Mark, as Ken has mentioned fish hydrolysate has a dramatic stimulation to the soils beneficial microorganisms such as bacteria and fungi. Further benefits come in the form of mineral nutrients in "protein chelated" forms and as such! persistent and consistent usage will, in long term, bank up the soils( P). A good quality hydrolysate has a NPK analysis of around 2-0.5-0.3 However I do recall many years ago during dissertation slavery it was to be recorded that the fish in this form had outperformed a standard 10.10.10. Mark, use this wonderful and beneficial product with frugal endeavour. Best, Ian.
7 Jan 2010 by Alan Sharp
Good morning Has 2 mow.
The fish hydrolysate I presume you are talking about has a typical analysis of 8-7-7 when applied at 50 litres per Hectare. When applied as a bio-stimulant and used as the two gentlemen above point out it is an incredibly efficient component in encouraging a more active soil food web.
As a bio-stimulant tank mix it with your other feeds at a rate of 5L - 10L per Hectare so the maximum you will achieve is an analysis of 1.6-1.4-1.4 which I'm sure you will agree is not excessive. Combine this with additional Fulvic and Humic acid additions and you will be well on the way to achieving a fungal dominance in your soil which naturally means finer grasses becoming prevailent. But aerate you must do if any true benefit is to be seen especially with a sarrel spiker as this will further stimulate the microbial activity in your rootzones. All the best, Alan
7 Jan 2010 by ian macmillan
Just in case the reader of this thread is being confused with the analysis as demonstrated By Alan and myself. The analysis differ from where the fish was originally caught; Sea's, Oceans, the rivers that flow into them with a major diversity of minerals and nutrients. This is also relevant to other sea crop products! i.e. Kelp and Sea weed. And of course! the application rate. The main thing remains the main thing? if you want to increase soil microorganism then Hydrolysate is as good as it gets. Ian Mac
7 Jan 2010 by has 2 mow Last edited 7 Jan 2010
duplicate.
7 Jan 2010 by has 2 mow
Thank you gents for the replies , the benefits of this product seem to be very clear ,my only concern was the phosphate input but they are of a low input.
Alan thanks for the chat .
I am working on a way of being able to aerate the surface of my greens with the use of my turf iron , so i should be able to do a entire green in 30 minutes .
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