Message Board - Cricket: roller
23 Jul 2010 by robert butcher
our stothart and pitt roller which has given great service for 35 yrs (it were old when we bought it !!) looks like its finally died,gearbox is beyond repair.
we have chance to buy a s/h tv 1400,this looks like a good buy, but at 4 tons is it it to heavy ?
anyone any ideas as to the best weight or know were i can source spares for the s&p.
23 Jul 2010 by A J
A lot of s/p`s get converted with these hydro kits nower days. Hard to find spares, but if it`s just the gearbox your after? you could try - poweroll, or greensward engineering co and other cricket roller engineering refurbishers? To many to list? ( google) They might have something lying around?
As to s/h tv 1400? i don`t know what this looks like?
When you say 4 tons, is this fully ballast or dry weight?
Grow in grace...........
23 Jul 2010 by Neil Dixon
give Ralph Spring a call, he may be able to help; 0208 428 5919
23 Jul 2010 by Mark Rodman
Hi, I have a couple of gearboxes for 32rd's, taken off and replaced with a conversion kit. Contact me if you are interested.
As regards a 4 ton roller i wouldn't recommend it after seeing a 2" crust form on a local clubs square-took lots of money and time to correct.
23 Jul 2010 by robert butcher
mark.. i will be in touch about gearbox's,i spoke to county groundsman and he said with 1.4 metre width 4 tons would be ok,what was the drum width of the roller you say did damage to square.
23 Jul 2010 by A J
If rolled correctly with the right moisture levels, loam, Grass coverage/root growth compatibilitys, and plenty of PSR at the begining of the season then a build up to 4 tons should be achievable.
Hence me asking the question on ballasting? You should be aming to build up to this kind of weight, Very important.
Grow in grace...........
23 Jul 2010 by jlawrence
weight isn't the only factor with a roller. How big are the drums ?
Bluecoat is right, if it can be built up to 4 tonnes then that won't be a problem - depending on what the unballasted weight is.
Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.
23 Jul 2010 by Sumomosr
Robert, It seems the first (and last) time you wrote to us was 3 years ago and your gearbox had failed then too.
If you have the funds to buy a 4-tonner then I suggest you instead buy one of the gearboxes offered by Mr Rodman and spend the rest on up-grading your maintenance and storage facilities as it doesn't look like your 32RD gets much loving care and/or attention.
GOGGA
23 Jul 2010 by barry glynn
Jeez, 4 tons sounds heavy to me for uk, if its not perfect and fairly hard you could sink in never to be seen again
What do I do? I just cut the grass.
23 Jul 2010 by A J
How`s your new roller going barry?
Have you rolled off the grey primer on the rollers yet.... Just need to up grade with a new sound system now, get them roots rocking 
Grow in grace...........
24 Jul 2010 by robert butcher
thanks for info,i will replace gearbox if i can get one and look out for a less heavy roller as 4 tons is the unbalasted weight so think it could be to risky to use regularly.
last time gearbox broke got a guy locally to fix it but he is not around anymore.
24 Jul 2010 by A J
Might be worth considering overhauling the old girl over the winter. and getting it converted to hydro drive. Be worth talking to mark rodman what it might intail for the long run.
Total refurbs on a 32RD Can cost £3K to 4K?
A convertion Kit £1k + so its worth looking into.
Grow in grace...........
24 Jul 2010 by mackay
For spec on the tv1400 see:
http://www.terex.co.uk/upfiles/specsheet/uk-en/p68_01021%20terex%20tv%20roller%20specsheet%204pp.pdf
This roller would be quite suitable for use on most squares. As with all rollers, as the weight goes up, the amount of moisture that needs to be present in the soil needed for effective rolling decreases.
The heavier rollers tend to get used when the soil is too wet, resulting in loss of grass cover, root shear and hostile growing conditions. However if used properly I think these rollers are superior to the traditional cricket rollers. Indeed, the Cranfield research indicated that a greater weight than currently the norn would be advantageous.
24 Jul 2010 by barry glynn
New roller going a treat Bluecoat. Yep grey primer gone, bloody delight to drive with power steering. Elvis still dominates the sounds, working on new songs for the act!
What do I do? I just cut the grass.
25 Jul 2010 by willard
Completely agree with mackay. Just don't use it pre-season or early season until moisture levels decrease.
A metre wide drum plus would have an effect of about 2 tonnes anyway.
4 tonnes & narrow would kill your block early season.
Eden Park have a narrow 5 tonne roller, have seen their cores, works well, wouldn't use it on a UK club block though...
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