Message Board - Natural Turf: fairy rings
13 Feb 2004 by dave
fairy rings
what treatments are available for getting rid of fairy rings
13 Feb 2004 by Loammeister
fairy rings
Lots of treatments possible for fairy rings from chemical treatments to excavation but first of all you have to identify what type you have and how serious they are to your sport- presumably it's a cricket square? Get them identified then you can work out a programme to deal with them
The light at the end of the tunnel is not a train
13 Feb 2004 by Anonymous Last edited 23 Oct 2006
fairy ring
13 Feb 2004 by Anthony Asquith
fairy rings
by the way dave your rings will not look good cosmeticly so a liquid iron or a feed will help presentation purposes
13 Feb 2004 by Mmmm
my fairy ring!
fairy ring destroyer no longer available to the amenity market.
use of a good wetting agent to drench the area is a good idea, fork or prick the surface to help penetration.
other than that, heritage in the states has a label recommendation for control of fairy rings. people who have used heritage in this country as a preventative for control of fusarium have found that the fairy rings have decreased.
14 Feb 2004 by PAZ
Fairy Rings
In the past, I've lifted the turf off, following the "ring" then dug out to a depth of the spade. Disposed of the soil. Forked the sides and bottom of this trench then drenched the trench with a product called Armillotox bought from the local garden centre (Jeyes fluid is an alternative). Left for a couple of days replaced the soil with sterilised soil or rootzone and dependant of the time of year or where the fairy ring was situated I re-seeded or turved.
I have also found that this remedy also helped in combatting Honey fungus!
14 Feb 2004 by petermarkcraig
Armillotox....
now on the banned list I'm afraid.
Of course the grass looks good. The sun is shining.
15 Feb 2004 by chris Parry
armillotox
not used it in 5years Peter, but thanks for the info.
16 Feb 2004 by Rizla
washing up liquid
do you use it 50/50 or neat on the fairy rings
Fat old Sun
22 Feb 2004 by Anonymous Last edited 23 Oct 2006
wa
22 Feb 2004 by Rizla
neat
thx anthony i will give that a try
Fat old Sun
23 Oct 2006 by jarvoski
this cricket square has suffered over many years with avery dark lush green ring it has been treated unsuccessfully. it has genuine mushrooms in the ring around august time, the only thing i havent tried is fairy liquid
23 Oct 2006 by Anthony Asquith
Hi
scroll down the postings and there have been several about this very subject!
24 Oct 2006 by chrismitchell
Guys a word of caution. Teepol was a common industrial detergent for commercial kitchen use. Basicaly a commercial version of fairy liquid and in the 70's was used as a wetting agent on golf course greens. Over a period of time it was realised that its ionic nature bound clay particles together creating an inpenetrable solid rootzone which needed a pneumatic drill to break up. Thus non ionic wetting agents were created . So use fairy liqiuid. at your peril because you might be making the rootzone even more in penetrable!
Regards
Chris
You will never see a statue in honour of a committee.
24 Oct 2006 by Anthony Asquith Last edited 24 Oct 2006
Ofcourse a programme of surfectants ie wetters is advised as a preventitive to 'hydrophobicity' and i use an organisilicon type one
However out of 50 (ish) on the market only 5 are any good!
thanks
24 Oct 2006 by Anthony Asquith Last edited 24 Oct 2006
Ofcourse a programme of surfectants ie wetters is advised as a preventitive to 'hydrophobicity' and i use an organisilicon type one
However out of 50 (ish) on the market only 5 are any good!
thanks
24 Oct 2006 by Loammeister
Chris
That's an interesting take on the old Fairy Liquid cure for Fairy Rings, do you know who carried out the research? It would be interesting to find out more.
Can't penetrate without a pneumatic drill? Next thing they'll be using that as a selling point for harder faster wickets !
AA I must talk to you about those wetters
Regards David
The light at the end of the tunnel is not a train
24 Oct 2006 by mario
Anthony,
I tend to only use a wetting agent on the run-ups to keep them open.
However, I would be interested in your "Top 5". Send a P.M. when you have the time.
Ta............
I know no boundaries.
24 Oct 2006 by chrismitchell
Loammeister, it was something we were taught as part of our city and guilds training at collge in the late seventies.
I see from this site that PVA is being used for holding wickets together maybe you should all use fairy liquid. At least you will all have nice soft hands!!
Regards Chris
You will never see a statue in honour of a committee.
24 Oct 2006 by Loammeister
Ghris
It's when you mention the Ionic nature bindingthe clay particles together that is interesting- would this have manifested itself on golf greens with little or no clay content? Or was it at the time when 'natural' (indigenous) soil was still in use on most golf greens
there are a number of questions that offer themselves from what you say, it's just interesting and worth exploring
PS How are those ground temperatures holding up against marios' ?
The light at the end of the tunnel is not a train
24 Oct 2006 by chrismitchell
Loammeister, quick check outside. Rootzone on putting lawn low 14s, clay soil semi rough 10 metres away over 16 degrees and that was from at least 4 readings per area.
In the 70s a man made rootzone was as rare as an honest answer from a polititian, so very much down to clay soils. Interesting how it would react on any fines within a sandy rootzone. Would the fines migrate downwards as a result of the wetting effect of the fairy liquid and end up as a bound together layer in the profile?
If one has ever seen bricklayers put an additive in their pug to help it flow and see how stickier it gets. The same happens with a drop of fairy liquid in the mix and lets face it the stuff sets pretty solid. Interesting thought.
Regards
Chris
You will never see a statue in honour of a committee.
24 Oct 2006 by Anthony Asquith
Wetters
PM me if you want the info!
24 Oct 2006 by jlawrence
in bricklaying/cement, you add the fairy liquid to the mix to stop the water seperating from the rest of the stuff - try it sometime, it's amazing to see the difference it makes.
Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.
24 Oct 2006 by Rizla Last edited 24 Oct 2006
yes but it makes the mix week, its a no no on our site`s.
Fat old Sun
25 Oct 2006 by matsukazi
Hello every one
Architects do not recommend the use of fairy liquid as an additive to mortar as it contains impurities (spare a thought for our dishes). However the recommended products such as Cemplas are better and cheaper to make the mortar binding and fatty.
All the best
Pete
26 Oct 2006 by chrismitchell
From the last few posts it is becoming obvious why not to apply fairy liquid to your hallowed turf. I trest my case!
Chris
You will never see a statue in honour of a committee.
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