8 Mar 2004 by buzzby
Greens
Excellent....I have only just subscribed to this website and I am already enjoying it. As a recently new member of a splendid golf club I am keen to learn all about greens (and course)....I quite like the idea of being on the greens committee (at some point). The biggest problem we have is Fusarium. We have sprayed several times but it still cometh. Does whipping the morning dew off help to reduce it ? Anymore ideas ?
8 Mar 2004 by pete
ideas
yes talk to your greenkeeper and take what he says greens comittees are always trying to undermine the greenkeeper im sure he knows more about fusarium than the whole comittee put together.The problem is comittees tend to listen more to outsiders than their own greens staff and are always trying to tell the keeper what to do
8 Mar 2004 by john
disease
Daily brushing and/or switching of the greens will help prevent the spread of diseases such s fusarium-which are water borne fungal diseases
9 Mar 2004 by Big D
Greens
Why not tell your Greenkeeper to join as well, and you will learn far more with his assistance.
Big D
9 Mar 2004 by mackay
disease
Regular spraying of the greens with iron will help acidify the surface and help prevent the spread of disease as well as giving good appearance through winter.
Prevention is better than cure however, and although there is always a chance of disease (especially when the dew point rises) it is possible to reduce the risk. ie. very low use of nitrogen at certain times of the year, switching, control of annual meadow grass, control of thatch etc etc. There are no quick fixes however.
Careful monitering of the disease is very important. since spraying with pesticides should really only be done when the disease threatens to become out of control. It is likely, given the rate and frequency of genetic variation amongst some disease pathogens, that if we continue slopping chemicals about willy nilly then a resistant strain will appear - like with superbugs and antibiotics! Always remember that incidence of a disease or pest does not necessarily indicate a pest/disease problem.
Find out more about the pathogen of the disease and its lifecycle. it is called Microdocium Nivale, Fusarium Nivale, Pink snow mould, fusarium patch (amongst others). Also research intergrated pest management stratergies (IPM).
It may be worth employing a specialist consultant as well.
But for gods sake treat the greenskeeper as a professional and ask him what he thinks can be done. I'm sure he is as vexed by the problem as anyone!
9 Mar 2004 by peter
yes
any greenkeeper worth his salt will already be doing all the above and will do it much better without the interference of a committe with limited knowledge
9 Mar 2004 by buzzby
greens
I thank you all for your comments. I have never seen the greens brushed or switched first thing in the morning to get rid of the dew (1 lesson) (so perhaps the greenkeeper should join) and with regards to "greens committees", it is precisely why I have joined this website - so that I can learn and know what I am talking about.
Again I thank you.
9 Mar 2004 by pete
learn
im sorry but just by reading advice on a website will not make you a qualified green keeper it takes years and years of hard work.If you wish to learn more why not ask your greenkeeper if you can work on the course . You cannot read anything here that will qualify you for "knowing what you are talking about"
9 Mar 2004 by Pete
Noted
You are right of course, but at least I would know more than some of the clowns that sit on these committees. As for speaking with the greenskeeper - that goes without saying, I realise there is no substitute for experience. All I want to do is broaden my knowledge and not teach anyone to suck eggs.
9 Mar 2004 by Buzzby
Sorry
the entry at 1911 is mine
14 Mar 2004 by P.J.
Pest
Clowns , yes you're right there. Listen to Pete and BUZZ off.
Clowns etc.
P.J.. Is your message meant to be a joke? If so it could be misinterpreted. If I was Buzzby I might take offence - was that your intention? If so that's very stupid of you.
Mr Buzzby is taking an interest in his course and he is making an effort to learn about the Greenkeepers trade so that he can help make more informed decisions if he gets on his greens committee. He is trying to prevent himself being a 'clown' and also reduce the effects of other possible clowns at his club. Such intentions should be encouraged and not lampooned.
Don't buzz off Buzzby; stay with this site and help improve your course and offer support to your greenkeeper if he needs it.
By the way, do greenkeepers really still brush or switch their greens? I don't work on a golf course but I got the impression it was no longer done and that cutting the grass early in the morning was the usual method of dealing with the dew problem these days.
17 Mar 2004 by buzzby
thank you
To those that have offered good advice I thank you. To those that see fit to try and ridicule me in my search for knowledge.....you failed.
I will continue to seek sound advice and if I do ever make it to the greens committee I will still offer my advice and try to guide the clowns
27 Mar 2004 by P.J.
Clowns
Michael, it's no joke being a Head G.K. and having to listen to the likes of Buzzby, I've been a H.G.K. for 17yrs and could write pages of the ridiculous suggestions that have come my way from Buzzbies who think they have gained a little knowledge of greenkeeping. The old saying " a little knowledge is a dangerous thing " is very true.Why is it that golfers assume we will better be able to carry out our duties if we have a schoolteacher, a car salesman and a doctor to advise us! By the way Michael we only cut 7 days a week in the growing season, not through the winter when we switch or brush most days. With your knowledge of G.K. why don't you apply to join a greens committee.
28 Mar 2004 by pete
lol
well said
Ignorance
P.J. When you started off in the greenkeeping business 17+ years ago and you asked a sensible question, did you get the sort of reaction that you're giving me and Buzzby?
31 Mar 2004 by BUZZBY
How arrogant
I wanted to learn a little not tell people how to "suck eggs". If greenkeepers are seen as arrogant I can see why, having read some of the less than helpful comments. I want to be on the greenkeepers' side you fools, so if I understand I can support .......der, do you understand YET !!
1 Apr 2004 by peter
rubbish
im afraid u are wrong the arrogance and ignorance is on the commitees side you may think you are being helpful but all you are is a constant thorn in the GK side .HGK are highly skilled professionals who shouldnt even have to answer to a commitee I know you feel honourable and you have the best intentions etc but at the end of the day u will be a pain in the ass just leave the GK alone to get on with his job and concentrate on your own activities.
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