17 Mar 2004 by RDFC
Pitch abuse
Why don't footballers ever listen to the FA? After being told and having memos sent out to them instructing them not to make additional pitch markings and having been told twice by myself, last nights away goalkeeper still insisted on making such marks on the 18 yard line and on the goal line. After the game I mentioned this to the head coach who informed me that the goalkeeper was French and did not understand. This is no excuse for not knowing the rules of the game for which he is paid. As for the rest of the team, standing in a circle and repeatedly running up and down on the same spot causing bald patches on the middle of the pitch did not improve my mood any.
Pitch abuse
Since it was my local side you beat last night I should be upset since it may help us on the way to Div 3,but I quite agree with you THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER as for the goalie he's played in the top flight but how many players know the rules ????.
If the magic yellow card came before kick off I wonder what the responce would be.
17 Mar 2004 by Anonymous
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unless anyone didnt know, the team in question is notts county, the goalkeeper being pegguy arphexad, who i myself have heard speak english-and so he should after also playing for both liverpool and coventry. whilst mentioning the wo latter teams-what a piece of great news that chris kirkland, or should it be sicknote, is once again injured-he cannot use not speaking english as his excuse for the same offence can he?
Pitch abuse
Now that Billy Turley(RDFC keeper) is back from injury you will have another goalie who has no diffuculty in digging trenches out all over the place (and hes english -what will his excuse be?)
A rare thing happened at our game last sunday against Newcastle , the coach approached me and asked where the best area to warm up would be and Bobby Robson instructed him no sharp turning -at last a professional set up.
Now that the memos have been sent out clubs should be more responsible, but more importantly the refs should stamp it out , they have the means to do so with the help of the linesman so they should take this problem seriously.
Well done with the pitch at RDFC this season lads its in great condtion and a credit to the club!
18 Mar 2004 by Gordon
Referees
Has anyone asked a referee yet about these new directives? I'd be interested to know whether ref's are going to take a new hard line approach to scratch marks
18 Mar 2004 by Jim B (THFC)
Pitch abuse
I think we are being hopeful about the referees taking control of the situation they struggle to manage a game. Just think what it would be like to see goalkeepers getting booked before the blow of a whistle the refs will get more grief than they do now. However the first ref to do it will begin a media frenzy and the goalkeeper in question will feel a grade 'A' tw*t! this I think will begin a snowball effect within the leagues. I think the best way to deal with the warm-ups is to herd the teams to where you want them. For example mentioning to the coaches where to set their sessions and moving them around for each game would certainly help. Make sure you mention that if the coach is considering intense footwork ask him to do it on the surrounds where it wont affect the pitch. Well done with pitch it looked good on the box. looking in good nick.
20 Mar 2004 by PAZ
peggy
I had him when i was at Leicester. Got a lucky break no one had signed him up and came to LCFC just to train. Then we had a goalie shortage, so Martin O'Neil gave him a go in the deserves ( as in Reserves) and had some good games. Just been a average keeper with some very lucky breaks. But is a jumped up arrogant f##### t###! Who can speak english. Destroys the goalkeeping area. Trained by the lengendary Tim Flowers who is a very nice guy but another messy keeper. You want to see what they did on the training ground!
21 Mar 2004 by mj
goal keepers
they are all the same !!!! there are only a small number that understand or indead care!!! This is something that managers have to help with as well as the FA and anyone else who cares to try! on match day the refs must sort it out and protect the pitch and at the respective training grounds the manager must help the grounds staff protect their intrests THE GREEN STUFF! from my expericence this has only happened for me once! (I cant tell you who but i had a great relationship with the then manager) Now well cant comment either!!!!!!!!! I do agree with chris like tim flowers they mostly are nice guys until they strap those bloody rotavators on their rich sorry ass feet!! I you know what i mean. for most of the football players who earn S--T loads they quite frankly dont give a flying F. education is what all the managers and players need so they can really understand what we really have to do week in week out for them!!!
29 Mar 2004 by ch
just a thought
it may be worth while to print the directives and position them in the changing rooms and the referees room stating the consequences. i have had success with this method and dependant on the positioning and lay out it will be read.
25 Sep 2004 by bryanbees
pitch abuse
would it not be much easier and less controverial if the marks that goalkeepers make on the six yard box and the penalty area lines are markede by the groundsman, or is this to easy
Six Yard Box Markings
As a referee and playing fields manager who use to be hands on for 20 years I can see the problems from both sides. The markings on the goal line are optional and very useful to referees. The 11 yard marks on the touch line should not be marked on any pitch be it in the Football League or on a public park pitch as there is no reference to this in the laws.
Marks made be a goalkeeper on the 6-yard box is an offence and the player should be cautioned. The reason referees do not do this is because one more minor incident in the match, the keeper is sent off for a second caution and then the referee is said to have gone over the top, takes the full onslaught of the crowd, players and management not including your best friend the media. I have always stopped play, perhaps the first corner, which is likely the first time the referee notices the marks and make it clear that it will not happen in the second half, as you will take action. I have yet to do so therefore I hope I have educated the goalkeeper, also reminding him of the Tim Flowers incident a few years back, and saved other pitches been vandalised.
If the FA allow ground staff to mark lines on the touchlines and say nothing every week of the season then these marks should be moved to the top of the 6 yard boxes in line with the posts.
Six Yard Markings
Steve L,
Can you as a referee not speak to the Keepers before the game starts?, then they have been warned, or why not speak to the team Captains.
reply to Steve L
"The 11 yard marks on the touch line should not be marked on any pitch be it in the Football League or on a public park pitch as there is no reference to this in the laws. " What it states In the laws of the game is that goal line 11yd mark is optional. That will be the reference in law 1 The field of play. Are sure your a ref?
Six Yard Marks
Bache,
You are correct they are optional on the goal line only, but a very useful mark at corner kicks. My main concern is the number of illegal marks on the touchline, if the FA accepts these then how can they complain about marks on the 6-yard box.
As far as speaking to the goalkeepers before the game how do I know that the goalkeepers I have today are going to mark on the 6-yard box? This would be the same as going to a player before the game and saying the first trip on an opponent you make I will caution you.
Marks
Hello Steve L,
Thanks for you reply,
Surely By scratching marks in the box, isnt the keeper BLATANTLY breaking the rules of the game, the same as if a player BLATANTLY fouls another player.
I get your point about speaking to the players about the first trip, but isnt that down to your discretion?, if you , as referee feels that it was intentional, whether it was his first foul or not, are you not quite within your rights to book a that player.
So why the reluctance to book Goalkeepers? ( even after they have carried out the offence)
Forgive me if i am talking rubbish, but this is from a Grounds Managers and a football fans view.
4 Apr 2005 by Al
Pitch abuse
I might be stating the glaringly obvious here - but surely the powers that be should allow keeper markings to be replaced by 'subtle' paint markings by the groundsmen thus:
a) making the neanderthal, knuckle scraping keepers aware of their sense of positioning
b) saving the groundsman a lot of grief
After all isn't the purpose of all the other markings there for a purpose - why should this be exemptt.
Another 'trick' the keepers used to make was, after half time, they'd screw their studs into the penalty spot. Thus rendering it 'uncomfortable' for a penalty taker to settle his football in position prior to a spot kick - in the vain hope he'd make a pigs ear of the spot kick.
I could only counter that by saying if a through ball or back pass hit the offending spot the ball would deviate and run into the net - thus rendering the keeper a gormless prat
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