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With the dry conditions down south, anyone thinking of getting the glue out yet? Must admit with all the junior cricket on our second square and the difficulty in getting enough water down, my thoughts are turning to either gluing or wetting down and rolling out on the morning of matches just to try and hold them together.
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I nearly glued the CB40 pitch against Middlesex but talked myself out of it - then wished I had.
It's useful stuff in a crisis.
It's useful stuff in a crisis.
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Once a muppet.....................
Never used it myself, but having had a couple go through the top on dry pitches on the bottom square, we are fast approaching that time. My old Kiwi mate always used to be a great advocate of glue saying "that's a prime candidate for glue".
The way our guys batted against you Andy, it would have been a waste of PVA.
The way our guys batted against you Andy, it would have been a waste of PVA.
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Some people are like Slinky's, totally useless but amusing if you push them down the stairs
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I may cut grass, but i'm not green !!
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No need to use it yet, but i can see me needing a drop come July and August if this weather persists.
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Never had a problem with the top going but on a square with a severe soil break at c.30mm and other 'layering' underneath, occasionally the top 30mm will not be what you want and the glue will really help. We didn't use it once last year but it's nice to have it in the bag.
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
How do you put the stuff on and how do you get it off? Dies it tend to make the ball skid on and not spin at all?
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
I'm leaving so much grass on currently, underneath the rolling, I think it's longer than the outfield! Still 550 runs in 100 overs yesterday, at least the batsmen are happy.
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watered and rolled thurs night. turned up on friday and it was like salt flats - plates that you could have moved easily with little force. may cause future issues but had no choice but to brush cement in, water and roll. pitch turned out well.
thinking anout the glu now. haven't had any success googling instructions on how to use
thinking anout the glu now. haven't had any success googling instructions on how to use
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Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.
My tracks are living pretty much permanently under sheets and they're still drying too fast.
With regards to glue Barry, you add it to a knapsack and spray it on. So long as you don't use a waterproof glue you can just add lots of water to get rid of it.
With regards to glue Barry, you add it to a knapsack and spray it on. So long as you don't use a waterproof glue you can just add lots of water to get rid of it.
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Different people use different amounts. I would use 5L glue in 20L of water, but have also used 10L in 40L of water. Mix together well and jut spray on, making sure you go slow enough to only have to make one pass (or else you have to walk over where you have just glued). Can be put on with knapsack, watering cans or walkover sprayer - doesn't really matter. Just make sure you wash your kit immediately afterwards or you'll block your nozzles.
I find that the higher amounts of glue can be troublesome to remove and after extensive washing out with a hose can still leave a gluey crust when dry.
I find that the higher amounts of glue can be troublesome to remove and after extensive washing out with a hose can still leave a gluey crust when dry.
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mackay,
can you do it with a watering can. in lehman's terms, what is the glue i need.
Must be a proper money saver for a village club? square practise?
can you do it with a watering can. in lehman's terms, what is the glue i need.
Must be a proper money saver for a village club? square practise?
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Just water soluble PVA glue avaliable in builders merchants. Watering can fine - If coverage isn't all the same it doesn't seem to matter much.
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He not busy being born is busy dying!!
Must not be waterproof PVA glue though.
I have used it on pitch ends out of a watering can at 1 pint per 2 gallons each end.
Does help to hold the surface together.
Must point out that it can only be used for one day games!
Chris
I have used it on pitch ends out of a watering can at 1 pint per 2 gallons each end.
Does help to hold the surface together.
Must point out that it can only be used for one day games!
Chris
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And don't worry if it looks really messy when you apply it as it dries clear. Personally I'd avoid it where possible and don't see it as a substitute for good groundsmanship. Despite what some will say, I don't think it's great for the grass and I've seen it act as a barrier to newly sown grass when renovating mid season and feel that the surface really needs a good invasive scarifying afterwards (not something you'll probably want to do mid season).
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
Can't see how it can be good for any future grass growth, it's hard enough in these conditions getting it to grow without putting anything on there that will make it even harder.
I'm going to stick to leaving plenty of grass on, as much as I can and rolling it in.
I'm going to stick to leaving plenty of grass on, as much as I can and rolling it in.
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Tony
When do you apply the glue? After all preparation is done? Or can you still cut and roll after application?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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He not busy being born is busy dying!!
Hi again.
I don't see a problem with grass growth as the stuff is water soluble and washes through the root zone.
If a dry weekend is forecast it should be applied on Friday afternoon when the pitch prep is done. If there is any rain over the weekend it would be rendered useless!
If you finish the game/s in the dry just brush the pitch and repair as normal. You will find grass growth is as it would be had it not been applied.
don't worry just do it!!
I am looking forwards to applying it when fixtures get congested but as yet the weather up here is truly awful. The rain this A M flooded the outfield!!!!!!!
I don't see a problem with grass growth as the stuff is water soluble and washes through the root zone.
If a dry weekend is forecast it should be applied on Friday afternoon when the pitch prep is done. If there is any rain over the weekend it would be rendered useless!
If you finish the game/s in the dry just brush the pitch and repair as normal. You will find grass growth is as it would be had it not been applied.
don't worry just do it!!
I am looking forwards to applying it when fixtures get congested but as yet the weather up here is truly awful. The rain this A M flooded the outfield!!!!!!!
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Once a muppet.....................
Send some South Chris, we are so dry and to make it worse have had a howling gale all day. Turned the water on repaired pitches 8pm yesterday left on till 8am, by 12 noon they were bone dry again. Need to keep everything covered.
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
Yep Vic, ground looks like end of September, leaves everywhere . Spent all day watering now it looks like rain, that's ok as you say we are in drought land down here.
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Hi all
When mixing I always make sure that the water is warm and really mix well with the glue.
Don't forget that if you use a knapsack sprayer wash out thoroughly again with warm water and pull through. This should be done immediately you have finished spraying the glue onto the pitch.
Regards
Geoff Calcott
When mixing I always make sure that the water is warm and really mix well with the glue.
Don't forget that if you use a knapsack sprayer wash out thoroughly again with warm water and pull through. This should be done immediately you have finished spraying the glue onto the pitch.
Regards
Geoff Calcott
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Once a muppet.....................
Geoff, enjoyed the company of Andy H down here for 3 days last weekend, he was singing your praises.
Posted 23 May 2011 Last edited: 23 May 2011
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Sod it... rise above it...
Barry - will happily swap your leaves for my puddles... might as well have come to work in a kayak this morning... and as for the wind... the marquee that we have erected for our founders day this coming weekend actually blown away... literally took off and returned to earth a crumpled mess, and as for the snapped ropes and poles on our cricket nets...
Did someone mention nice weather?
Mike
Did someone mention nice weather?
Mike
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
Yes Mike
I replied on another post. I feel embarrassed about moaning about lack of rain and some leaves!
Obviously the wind we got was just the tail end of the stuff you copped.
I replied on another post. I feel embarrassed about moaning about lack of rain and some leaves!
Obviously the wind we got was just the tail end of the stuff you copped.
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Of course there's no bounce, bend your back and put some bloody effort in.
I've had a load of wind over the past few days, but still very very little rain.
At the moment my tracks are drying that fast it can play completely different in the 2nd innings compared to the 1st. I'll admit I'm thinking of gluing one this weekend just to see if it'll remain the similar for both halves of the game. With 9 games in 9 days starting Saturday it'd be very useful to lock some moisture in the tracks on day one.
At the moment my tracks are drying that fast it can play completely different in the 2nd innings compared to the 1st. I'll admit I'm thinking of gluing one this weekend just to see if it'll remain the similar for both halves of the game. With 9 games in 9 days starting Saturday it'd be very useful to lock some moisture in the tracks on day one.
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