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I am haveing a bit of trouble seeking a full,part time job or seasonal work i have been greenkeeping/groundsman for about 5 years and have an N.V.Q level 3,2 and relervant spraying qualifications need some Help i live in the london/surrey area!
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The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under who’s shade you do not expect to sit.
Look on the BIGGA website ..... Gatton Manor and looking for an assistant greenkeeper.
KB
KB
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Hi Ross
I have got a groundsman job going in the surrey area PM and i can give you some details.
I have got a groundsman job going in the surrey area PM and i can give you some details.
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Hello, my name is Jonathan Fletcher and I want to train to be a groundsman with DART Training and i was wondering if anyone can help me
Thanks
Jonathan Fletcher
Thanks
Jonathan Fletcher
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Sod it... rise above it...
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This week I 'ave mostly been working bloomin long days and not getting enough sleep
Ross, send us your CV just in case. Nothing at mo but things change quick in the Spring.
Posted 21 Mar 2012 Last edited: 21 Mar 2012
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The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under who’s shade you do not expect to sit.
Sounds desparate but have you tried searching the websites of golf clubs in your county or surrounding counties to see if there are any vacancies advertised.
That and emailing your CV to these same golf clubs since most clubs have an email address for HR or club secretary, some even have the Course Manager.
You could even check out all the colleges covering sportsturf courses. They often have a vacancies pages.
KB
That and emailing your CV to these same golf clubs since most clubs have an email address for HR or club secretary, some even have the Course Manager.
You could even check out all the colleges covering sportsturf courses. They often have a vacancies pages.
KB
Posted 21 Mar 2012 Last edited: 21 Mar 2012
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I don't know if it helps you particularly Ross, but Lancashire are looking for temporary groundstaff:
http://www.lancashirecricket.co.uk/index.php/about-us/vacancies/3525.html
http://www.lancashirecricket.co.uk/index.php/about-us/vacancies/3525.html
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This week I 'ave mostly been working bloomin long days and not getting enough sleep
Ross might have a couple of weeks work if you interested various sites surrey and kent. you got me number
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This week I 'ave mostly been working bloomin long days and not getting enough sleep
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I noticed there isn't a mass uproar at the £6.08 an hour that the cricket job is paying which over a year would work out at just over £12,600, I thought it was only football that paid those sort of wages.......
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Must be owned by a Arab but with out the trillions then!!
Folk foget how a primary school got rapped for advertising a
for a school groudsman on this site for 13K causing the biggest debate ever! Turnd out that the post was part time.... Schools cater for football and cricket and to a very high standard.
Right off to sweep the car park so the millionaire chelsea tractors are nice and clean for little james to start his day.
Folk foget how a primary school got rapped for advertising a
for a school groudsman on this site for 13K causing the biggest debate ever! Turnd out that the post was part time.... Schools cater for football and cricket and to a very high standard.
Right off to sweep the car park so the millionaire chelsea tractors are nice and clean for little james to start his day.
Posted 22 Mar 2012 Last edited: 22 Mar 2012
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Fair comment. I thought about posting along the lines of 'more than half your wages would go on rent if you relocated' but didn't bother in the end.
The wages thread in turfcare seems to crop up every three months or so and regardless of sports, the remuneration is poor. You can earn more at Sainsburys or McDonalds, which doesn't say much for the regard groundstaff are held anywhere. Perhaps football stands out because of the huge contrast between the players and the support staff and the sheer volume of money sloshing around. And at that point I will shut up, otherwise we'll all be off on another rant.
The wages thread in turfcare seems to crop up every three months or so and regardless of sports, the remuneration is poor. You can earn more at Sainsburys or McDonalds, which doesn't say much for the regard groundstaff are held anywhere. Perhaps football stands out because of the huge contrast between the players and the support staff and the sheer volume of money sloshing around. And at that point I will shut up, otherwise we'll all be off on another rant.
Posted 22 Mar 2012 Last edited: 22 Mar 2012
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everything happens for a reason
Good Morning,
The average greenkeeper in Ireland and Europe receive around €20-25000 to start and with this there is an opportunity to make more through overtime... There are also many opportunities to work hard and look for promotion which will give you a focus to try and better yourself and make much more money with the average head man making 40k plus and there is also greenkeepers on 80k plus but they are married to there job.
What i am getting at is there is some focus within greenkeeping/groundsman positions in other countries but in the UK there is so so many great men/women who seem (through threads) settle for what is given or have i got this wrong? ie 15k/year?
PS i am none of the above :)
The average greenkeeper in Ireland and Europe receive around €20-25000 to start and with this there is an opportunity to make more through overtime... There are also many opportunities to work hard and look for promotion which will give you a focus to try and better yourself and make much more money with the average head man making 40k plus and there is also greenkeepers on 80k plus but they are married to there job.
What i am getting at is there is some focus within greenkeeping/groundsman positions in other countries but in the UK there is so so many great men/women who seem (through threads) settle for what is given or have i got this wrong? ie 15k/year?
PS i am none of the above :)
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L.K.B
I had an email from totaljobs.com, the Belfry have 3 vacancies open. i was registered on all the recruitment sites in my aim to find re-employment as a greenkeeper, i don't need to look for myself now though, but i will let you know if anything appears.
http://www.totaljobs.com/JobSearch/Results.aspx?Keywords=greenkeeper
Hope this may help anybody looking for work.
Lee.
http://www.totaljobs.com/JobSearch/Results.aspx?Keywords=greenkeeper
Hope this may help anybody looking for work.
Lee.
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everything happens for a reason
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
Leeboy
Just seen the add for Lancashire cc, an absolute disgrace, 12k a year, actually £6k cos it's just for the summer, including weekends.
Mind you the players aren't on 50k a year let alone a week there.
But the pay is a joke there.
Might be cheaper to live up there but still...
Just seen the add for Lancashire cc, an absolute disgrace, 12k a year, actually £6k cos it's just for the summer, including weekends.
Mind you the players aren't on 50k a year let alone a week there.
But the pay is a joke there.
Might be cheaper to live up there but still...
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Hi Barry , just a thought , i have cracked the wages issue for groundsmen.
if you the grounds man could charge every user senior / youth players at your club a fee of say £3.5 per week ( that's equivalent to the cost of a pint of beer) and let say you had 200 members .
That would equate to an annual total of £36,400. therefore you take off the cost of materials and machinery servicing / petrol costs , which in your case was £6000 it would leave you with a annual paid salary of 30K, not bad that, you may have more members so you could afford to pay yourself more?
It may be the way forward ?
if you the grounds man could charge every user senior / youth players at your club a fee of say £3.5 per week ( that's equivalent to the cost of a pint of beer) and let say you had 200 members .
That would equate to an annual total of £36,400. therefore you take off the cost of materials and machinery servicing / petrol costs , which in your case was £6000 it would leave you with a annual paid salary of 30K, not bad that, you may have more members so you could afford to pay yourself more?
It may be the way forward ?
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L.K.B
Cheers Glenkeeran,
I hope this weather holds for when i start in a week, (Northwest England) but i also hope that something happens down in the really dry areas down south for our fellow sports turf practitioners.
Lee
I hope this weather holds for when i start in a week, (Northwest England) but i also hope that something happens down in the really dry areas down south for our fellow sports turf practitioners.
Lee
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
Hi Lawrence
Er, nice thought mate but it if you are talking about senior full paying members, we have about 35!! Not 200 mate.
No club I know has 200 senior members. Weve got over 250 colts but they pay a one off fee per year.
£3.50 a week is £140 pounds a year extra. If we tried to charge that onto the existing £140 sub for seniors, we wouldnt have enough players to put out a side let alone four. Sad I know but true.
Also the cost of running the club is ten fold or so the amount I mentioned for materials and servicing.
Er, nice thought mate but it if you are talking about senior full paying members, we have about 35!! Not 200 mate.
No club I know has 200 senior members. Weve got over 250 colts but they pay a one off fee per year.
£3.50 a week is £140 pounds a year extra. If we tried to charge that onto the existing £140 sub for seniors, we wouldnt have enough players to put out a side let alone four. Sad I know but true.
Also the cost of running the club is ten fold or so the amount I mentioned for materials and servicing.
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Hi Barry , yes you may only have 35 senior members , based on the fact that you have over 200 plus people using your facility , we need to charge a basic rate to cover the cost of grounds maintenance.
So even if you said £2.00 per person per week 200 x 2 = £400
400 x 4 ( month) =£1600
Times 12 months = £19200 , that would help pay for all the materials and some left to reward or have a full time grounds staff.
So even if you said £2.00 per person per week 200 x 2 = £400
400 x 4 ( month) =£1600
Times 12 months = £19200 , that would help pay for all the materials and some left to reward or have a full time grounds staff.
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
They ve got a full time groundstaff, me!
You cant go up to a kid every time he turns up and ask for £2 !!! Thats why the parents pay a yearly sub of £100.
When do you suggest you collect this £2 and who collects it?
Sorry totally impractical
You cant go up to a kid every time he turns up and ask for £2 !!! Thats why the parents pay a yearly sub of £100.
When do you suggest you collect this £2 and who collects it?
Sorry totally impractical
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What do I do? I just cut the grass.
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